Specialists manage many of the most complex and costly patients in healthcare, yet they have often remained outside the center of the accountable care conversation. As value-based care models mature, ACOs and specialty practices must find better ways to coordinate care, align incentives, and share responsibility for outcomes across the patient journey.
In this episode of Perspectives with Pinnacle, John P. Carter is joined by David Klebonis, President and COO of Palm Beach Accountable Care Organization, and Dr. Alex Liang, President and CEO of Dallas Nephrology Associates, to examine what effective collaboration between ACOs, primary care physicians, and specialists looks like in practice.
Using nephrology as a real-world example, the conversation explores why earlier specialist involvement can help slow the progression of chronic kidney disease, delay the need for dialysis when possible, and give patients more time to understand and prepare for their treatment options. The guests also discuss the infrastructure required to support this work, including patient education, care navigation, performance measurement, and active feedback between primary and specialty care teams.
The discussion also addresses one of the most difficult parts of collaboration: creating financial and operational models that recognize the specialist’s contribution while maintaining shared accountability for the patient’s overall care. Together, the guests offer practical insight into how ACOs and specialty practices can move beyond traditional referral relationships and build a more coordinated approach to value-based care.
03:21 – Why specialists are essential to an ACO’s ability to manage care, influence outcomes, and address total cost
10:37 – How earlier nephrology involvement can slow kidney disease progression and reduce new dialysis starts
15:03 – How physician-led education helps patients understand kidney disease, treatment options, home dialysis, and transplantation
20:58 – How specialist incentives and performance measures can be structured around quality, outcomes, and shared accountability
29:04 – What ACOs and specialty practices need to build internally to ensure success